cyberham,
if you are tired of the posters asking "tell me which is the best receiver, this is exactly what i mean. you either go to satelliteguys.us or ricksmotorsport.com or here or search the internet .very simple for you so called gurus to help a newbee to get going off the ground. I TIRE OF THE SAME BULL CRAP LINE THAT EVERYONE SPILLS . JUST LIKE THE SNIDE REMARKS ABOUT OVER ANALYZING SOMEONES POSTS. good for you for searching the internet. skybox is  a form of openbox. they have one on ebay openbox v8s. for someone to just watch tv, the remarks are loud ,because what if he decides to explore the hobby? if this is what this forum is about, HELL WHY NOT JUST CLOSE IT AND BAN NEW MEMBERS,SINCE THEY ALL WILL ASK THE QUESTION OF WHAT RECEIVER SHOULD I USE. PRETTY PETTY ANSWER TO A PERSON WHO CAN GO ELSEWHERE AND FIND MORE EAGER EMEMBERS TO HELP HIM. REMEMBER,MOST WHO ARE MEMBERS ARE CUSTOMERS OF HYPER. YOU DONT WANT TO RUN THEM OFF AND GET THE SITE SHUT DOWN DUE TO LACK OF FUNDS? I personally feel for the newbee who runs across self centered individuals. if you tire of it like some of the others here who think its above themselves to answer or guide the new ones, then shut the site down!!!!!!!!!,so what if you couldnt find one. i bought one of tech2000.com, and also one off ebay last year. really nice receiver.