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« on: October 09, 2019, 11:18:24 AM »

New pay service like ORBY TV. except even lower price. Check out the link below for full info. Especially look at the coverage map. Those in the very southern USA can get this signal, Sadly, the rest of the US cannot. Plus covers south america, puerto rico, bahamas, etc..  

From their website:

Kiwisat Caribbean, Your #1 TV provider

Satellite TV provider Kiwisat is launching a new DTH offering in the Caribbean to deliver top-quality but accessible TV entertainment to consumers on the islands.

Kiwisat is leasing capacity on SES-10 to deliver about 200 channels, including over 140 HD channels. The DTH platform is mainly aiming at English-speaking and Spanish-speaking  islands, with an exclusive package of American TV channels.

As the first platform to rely on the DVB S2X and HEVC standards in the North American pay TV market, Kiwisat offers the largest HD line-up in the Caribbean region.

Our Satellite.
SES-10 at 67˚W
The newly launched SES-10 provides enhanced coverage and significant capacity expansion over Latin America

Learn more here:


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https://www.kiwisatcaribbean.com/


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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 04:08:46 PM »

Nice to have a decent fta receiver that will receive DVB-S2X!

The OSMIO4k/4K+ receivers do a good job on DVB-S2X transponders. The signal for this satellite near Atlanta is weak. I am using a stationary 2.4 meter Prodelin dish for reception of this satellite. Will enjoy the free channels while they last.

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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2019, 07:21:00 PM »

hyper,
what is the cutoff on the footprint for this sat? you said only the southern states? nothing above tenn or kentucky?

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2019, 07:47:25 PM »

What size ku dish do you have? Advertised footprint is in the link.
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https://www.kiwisatcaribbean.com/about


I am using a commercial 2.4 meter dish because the 1.2 meter Geosat is not big enough. The signal will probably fall at a fast pace as you move North from Atlanta.

There are several channels and radio services open right now. The picture is very acceptable, and should out-perform most channels on Direct or Dish. I am very happy with this system.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2019, 10:56:59 PM »

It looks like it would take at least 1.8 meters of good ku dish to open the Kiwisatcaribbean channels around Atlanta.
The 1.2 meter Geosat seems to be around 2db(snr) short for the Kiwisatcaribbean muxes.
Attached are blindscan results for this satellite using the 2.4 Prodelin(67.2w) and the 1.2 meter Geosat(67.0w). 
The 2.4m Prodelin is currently set with one horizontal lnb with a 10750 l.o. while the 1.2m Geosat has an universal lnb.

Considering lnb differences between the 1.2 & 2.4 meter dishes, it may be possible to open the Kiwisatcaribbean muxes in my area with a 1.2 meter dish and a single polarity lnb of good quality, but I think it would be marginal at best, and only under ideal atmosphere conditions. The picture quality is very high, considering how many channels are packed into each transponder.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2019, 06:07:07 PM »

elbandido,

I have a 4 ft ku dish and i also have a cband dish with ku bracket adaptor

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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2019, 07:24:06 PM »

Thanks elbandido for your test results and your notes and screen shots etc...  I saw based on footprint map it was possible as far north as Atlanta, but now we know for sure and have a better idea what size dish is required.

Very cool.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2019, 07:30:31 PM »

I was able to get a copy of the Footprint Map for reference, see attached.



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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2019, 09:07:07 PM »

hyper,
looks like we are out of luck. Im in indiana and i dont think i could even get a glimmer of that one.

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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2019, 09:18:21 PM »

hyper,
looks like we are out of luck. Im in indiana and i dont think i could even get a glimmer of that one.

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That is correct - you and i have no chance of getting this signal.

But happy for those who can.

One TP is ITC as of now (They use at least 3 TP's for KIWI so far, only this one is ITC)

SES 10 67W
DVB-S2X 8PSK
11860 H
SR 49000
Pilot On

BTN
Destination America
Telemundo
Animal Planet Latin America
HH Latin America
TLC Latin America
ID Latin America
SCI FI Latin America
Turbo Latin America
Theater Latin America
World Latin America
Gol TV
Teen Nick
Fox Life
Kids Central
Fusion
Telemircro
RCN
NBC PR
Telemundo
Punto2
WAPA
WAPA2
WIPR
Univision
Teleisla


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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2019, 10:50:58 PM »

DVB-S2X has not been defined in LinuxTV, so most enigma2 receivers are told to log DVB-S2X as DVB-S2 and set the FEC to Auto.
Vu+ decided to define DVB-S2X, I guess to be different, which at first caused confusion in enigma2 blindscan. Vu+ also logs DVB-S2X as DVB-S2 with FEC Auto, but in the blindscan log it will show a DVB-S2X transponder when found as seen here:
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[Blind scan] prepared command : [vuplus_si2166_blindscan 950 2150 1 60 0 0 0 2]
[eConsoleAppContainer] Starting /bin/sh
[SKIN] Parsing embedded skin <embedded-in-'BlindscanState'>
[Skin] Processing screen: <embedded-in-'BlindscanState'>
[Skin] Processing screen: SimpleSummary
[eDVBFrontend0] set static current limiting
[eDVBFrontend0] set sequence pos 3
[eDVBFrontend0] set sequence pos 3
[eDVBFrontend0] update current switch params
[eDVBFrontend0] startTuneTimeout 20000
[eDVBFrontend0] setFrontend 1
[eDVBFrontend0] setting frontend
FE_SET_PROPERTY failed: Invalid argument
[eDVBFrontend0] sleep 500ms
[eDVBFrontend0] set dynamic current limiting
[DVBCAHandler] no more services
[eDVBChannel] OURSTATE: failed, fatal
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10799755', '49001000', 'DVB-S2X', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_13_18', '8PSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10859721', '49001000', 'DVB-S2X', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_13_18', '8PSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10919752', '49001000', 'DVB-S2X', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_13_18', '8PSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10970739', '30000000', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_1_2', 'QPSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '11030770', '30000000', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_1_2', 'QPSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '11102925', '11000000', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_1_2', 'QPSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 0 , data : []
[Blind scan] data : [2900][0][11799755][49001000][1][2][0][0][2][2]
[Blind scan] data : [2900][0][11859721][49001000][1][2][0][0][2][2]
[Blind scan] data : [2900][0][11919752][49001000][1][2][0][0][2][2]
[Blind scan] data : [2900][0][11970739][30000000][1][2][0][1][1][1]
[Blind scan] data : [2900][0][12030770][30000000][1][2][0][1][1][1]
[Blind scan] data : [2900][0][12102925][11000000][1][2][0][1][1][1]
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2019, 09:55:42 AM »


A video demonstrating some of the open Kiwisatcaribbean channels is in the link.
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https://mega.nz/#!2h9WmIZR!ibaVrE_IsR0NxahZSlVDX-pAAXSsBk2BzZ9c5w7iXBI


More information about DVB-S2X can be found in the link:
http://legalfreetoair.com/index.php?topic=46859.0

DVB-S2X is Real and will probably be more common in the future.  The combination of DVB-S2X and HEVC allow for more channels with better picture quality. The DVB-S2X signal is very robust, and a clear picture exists for me on these Kiwisatcaribbean transponders down to around 7db(SNR). 
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2019, 05:57:38 PM »

Most of the Kiwisat channels that were open are now encrypted. Very fun to watch while it lasted.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2019, 03:51:55 PM »

New pay service like ORBY TV. except even lower price.

Interesting new service. Might be able to receive the satellite between pine trees if I could move a dish for LOS.

Noticed that the subscription cost for US customers is higher, but the cost for the Caribbean is lower.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2019, 05:48:29 PM »

I'm actually a sub on Kiwisat Puerto Rico a lot of HD channels compare to others the receivers needs to improve is gui its menu is like any basic fta.
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