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 91 
 on: May 09 2022 09:52:20  
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 92 
 on: May 08 2022 11:16:03  
Started by armadillo_115 - Last post by elbandido
Gardiner is "supposed" to be good. Never ran one or the Satmaximum piece. You might contact Satmaximum and see what they say. An U.S. number is on their webpage.

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https://satmaximum.com/

The Norsat would be the safe bet. Should be able to return it if you don't like it. Just be careful with the scratches. Only put a screw or two in to test it.

As for over all signal and In General,
LNB'S seem to work a bit better or at times a lot better than lnbf's.  But either one will usually do the job of watching video on satellite tv. A decent lnb is better constructed than a lnbf and is why the difference in money is so great. Disassemble a decent lnb and any lnbf. You will notice a difference in parts and in materials. This of course would not apply to the cheap made lnb that cost a few dollars.

 93 
 on: May 08 2022 10:29:06  
Started by armadillo_115 - Last post by armadillo_115
Elbandido, I'll try swapping lnbs just to be sure, but the white lnbs are not the ones having the problem.

Other than that, I'll let the wife decide if those 2 channels are worth the money to her.  I'm happy with MY channels so far.

Thanks for the links. I had already looked at the Gardiner lnb but wondered if they were any good.

Anyone have an opinion about this lnb?

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 94 
 on: May 08 2022 08:49:46  
Started by armadillo_115 - Last post by elbandido
If you are not having any other problems besides reception, then you may try swapping the lnbs and feeds from one dish to the other. I had very poor results with the white lnbs that are similar or the same as what you purchased.

The only other option to swapping parts would be to spend money. I would suggest buying One decent lnb and see if it helps on 117w as both of your channels are on horizontal transponder. Here are a couple of suggestions:

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/251102605675?hash=item3a76e1b16b:g:aO4AAOSwxUJdvxG7

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/203125271502?hash=item2f4b35abce:g:2AQAAOSws9dfdt4P

The Norsat lnb seller accepts returns. The Gardiner lnb seller does not. The Norsat 8225RF is a decent example of a good, fta satellite dro lnb.

 95 
 on: May 08 2022 05:33:48  
Started by armadillo_115 - Last post by armadillo_115
Most lnbs already have a line amp of at least 50db. So adding an additional line amp will do nothing except raise the noise floor unless you have several hundred feet of coax installed between the lnb and receiver.

Yup, the results were horrible. 20db sloped amps overloaded signal strength at the receivers. Most Transponders at 100% or more and refusing to lock. (db unchanged)

The only time the amps ever helped me was early on when I had some very poor quality/lossy coax. And wasn't much benefit then.

Wasn't expecting much... but only took a few minutes to add them and remove them. Just something else that will probably never be used again. Got three.... will let go cheap. lol

 96 
 on: May 08 2022 04:18:20  
Started by armadillo_115 - Last post by elbandido
Most lnbs already have a line amp of at least 50db. So adding an additional line amp will do nothing except raise the noise floor unless you have several hundred feet of coax installed between the lnb and receiver.

 97 
 on: May 08 2022 04:12:30  
Started by armadillo_115 - Last post by armadillo_115
Put the old SatRon lnb on the Vert side of the Channel Master feed horn. (Tested with cheap old receiver, so no readings in db). S units dropped from 91 to 71. ZERO Q. (Horz still normal using the Chinese lnb) So I assume the SatRon is junkyard bound. Gonna look inside for anything obvious but that's about it.

Re-installed Chinese lnb. Parked dish on 116W, Willax channel. I know the 'correct' way is at the apex. Just looking for a fast improvement for Willax and Panamericana channels.

Tried peaking skew and FD... no improvement.
Pushing dish down gave at most a .1 dbB gain. Pushing dish up lost .1dB. So pretty well peaked still for 116W.

Going to put a couple of line amps back on next. Not expecting much, but what the heck.

Chainsaw mediation may help for 113W - 121W. But better lnbs probably needed for all Sats.



 98 
 on: May 07 2022 10:34:35  
Started by techristian - Last post by armadillo_115
Only a 75 ft OTA run? That isn't very demanding. CCS should handle that if necessary, but solid copper is best. Maybe I missed something.

Anyway, I've had good luck with this company in the past. I purchased this or something similar previously.

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https://www.showmecables.com/by-category/bulk-wire-cable/coax/rg6-quad-shield-coax-cable-bc

Solid Copper Core. Note that is not direct burial nor really for outside. (I run my cables thru poly water pipe) Prices go up from there. Shipping adds to the cost.

As far as the core turning black, lightning or static electricity can cause that on coax. Or water getting inside.

YMMV

 99 
 on: May 07 2022 09:16:59  
Started by techristian - Last post by elbandido
Decent rg6 coax should be around 80 cents U.S. per foot. Prices are wild due to the pandemic I guess, and claims of solid copper core often mean copper clad steel. Just do the best you can do. It is not easy to find true solid copper core in rg6. Also, riser cable is not usually outdoor rated.

 100 
 on: May 07 2022 08:25:58  
Started by techristian - Last post by techristian
18 gauge ccs so I cancelled this new order.

Dan

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