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Author Topic: Octagon SX88 H.265 HEVC HD  (Read 8435 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2018, 08:38:05 AM »

Just FYI for whatever it is worth..... That receiver uses the same brand chip set as the Manhattan 1978. Just tossing that out there.


 Edited to fix any missunderstanding..... Added the word "Brand" so people wouldn't get confused.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2018, 09:49:07 AM »

Does the Manhattan 1978 have the same bugs/ video problems as the SX88?
What about the motor controls for the Manhattan 1978? Same problems/issues as the SX88?

Would be nice to see a proper review of the Manhattan 1978. It seems no one has bothered to do that.
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2018, 12:03:31 PM »

We had that problem. Then fixed it.  wink 
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2018, 12:47:24 PM »

Which problem(s) did you have and fix???
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2018, 08:25:10 PM »

Video hiccuping and the motor controls. There is a problem with a few that don't have some kind of filter in front of the ir sensor that allows interference, but to the best of my knowledge that is being dealt with as they pop up. Not everyone has competing remotes. If I remember correctly, those were the first units? Been over a year.... minds not as it used to be... But I think that's the deal.
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2018, 07:40:10 PM »

Just FYI for whatever it is worth..... That receiver uses the same chip set as the Manhattan 1978. Just tossing that out there.

No. Do not think so. Here is the RS232 output of the SX88 at boot:
GxLoader v1.9 20140509

cpu family   : CSKY
chip model   : gx3211
board type   : 6622-dvbs2
memory size   : 256 MB
Flash type   : EM73C044
Flash size   : 132 MB
cpu freq   : 594 MHz

memory freq   : 533 MHz
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2018, 08:01:59 PM »

GX 6622 is in the 78. All I was referring to was the GX brand of chips for crying out loud. Excuse me for not being specific.
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2018, 08:07:59 PM »

board type   : 6622-dvbs2
SX88 chip model   : gx3211

What is the 1978 chip model???
Please post the rs232 output of the 1978.
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2020, 10:31:27 PM »

Over 3 years later, The Octagon SX88 is still getting regular firmware updates with the latest firmware dated 9-27-2020. Other receivers with similar chipsets made  a few firmware updates over a few months until the receivers were sold and then abandoned all support. Octagon is noted for extended support for their closed sourced fta products.

Over time, media plugins such as YouTube and Stalker will quit working unless they are updated. Octagon has shown enough concern to keep the media features operating while making additional tweaks and adjustments to the SX88 receiver.  It would be nice if other receiver brands would continue supporting it a few years after the fta product has been sold instead of supporting it initially then dropping it like a hot potato a few months after it has been introduced.

 
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2020, 12:06:29 AM »

Over 3 years later, The Octagon SX88 is still getting regular firmware updates with the latest firmware dated 9-27-2020. Other receivers with similar chipsets made  a few firmware updates over a few months until the receivers were sold and then abandoned all support. Octagon is noted for extended support for their closed sourced fta products.

Over time, media plugins such as YouTube and Stalker will quit working unless they are updated. Octagon has shown enough concern to keep the media features operating while making additional tweaks and adjustments to the SX88 receiver.  It would be nice if other receiver brands would continue supporting it a few years after the fta product has been sold instead of supporting it initially then dropping it like a hot potato a few months after it has been introduced.

 


100% agree with you there.
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2020, 03:27:39 PM »

I have seen threads comparing the blindscan feature of different receiver models. It would be nice to see a thread that compares the length of firmware support for different receiver models. Right now, the AzBox Premium+ and the Optibox receivers would probably be at the top of the list, with many years of enigma2 firmware support for each of these models.
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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2021, 11:30:03 PM »

Currently there is a DVB-S2 transponder on 99w c band that the  Octagon SX88 cannot get. The transponder is 4156H 5790SR QPSK FEC 4/5. Apparently, the SX88, and receivers using similar chpsets cannot process the 4/5 fec when using QPSK?  Octagon is said to be trying to find a solution for the SX-88. Other receivers that are said to be having trouble with this transponder include Linkbox models.

It will be interesting to see if Octagon or anyone else for that matter, fixes this issue. I do not know if the SX-88 tuner does not support a 4/5 fec for QPSK or if the actual problem is something else such as a tuner driver issue. We will see if this is fixed...
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2021, 08:18:24 AM »

I've been following the issues with the Puerto Rico mux on 99W. What's interesting is that last October 27 when conditions were just right, I was able to receive this mux on my 1.2m dish. At that time, I was able to lock and watch all three channels perfectly using my Edision, GSP microHD and Openbox S9 receivers. I know because I was helping another guy who was having troubles locking this mux with his microHD. Now, maybe something was changed after that date.

After a couple of days in October, I was never able to receive that transponder again on my small dish. This happens sometimes when working with a mini-BUD.
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2021, 10:00:27 AM »

A blindscan log from the MIO in August 2020 shows"auto" for the fec. That is the same as what I got in a blindscan last night. So it is unclear to me if fec is actually the problem. It will be interesting to see if Octagon or someone else fixes it. Or, something may change where the problem no longer exists.
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2021, 03:58:53 PM »

The reason the the Manhattan RS-1978 did not make changes to our box regarding the IPTV section because we could not. Neither does Octogon, as the factory who made this box has the source codes they will not give up. The only reason that Octogon has those because they continued to purchased this box from the chipset manufacture, something we would not do. Plus the price is down below $20.00 from the factory as the chipset has been discontinued along time ago. 

This is due to other issues with what you indicated on not able to receive other programs that they could not resolve with cheap tuners.  You can still add channels and we offered those channels that no-one else provided. Then just to have them copied by Octogon then added to their box.

What is the purpose of us doing all the heavy lifting.

Then you indicate we did not support it. I still support all of our boxes.  Unlike other boxes in the market whereas they do not even know how they work. You still sell them!

We have decided to move on into more hybrid units and we have more updated products coming in that we can control. That is only way we can support these products and its not through China! Of course some people think this is easy and cheap which it is not.

We started this product for the industry for a low costs product and with another dealer indicated he wanted a lot of these units. He indicated he would showcase this box with his systems to the troops and veterans. So we brought in a lot of inventory. This is how Octogon came into the states, through this dealer who in turn would not sell the product I brought in for him. We had this product out for some time, for only now only to be criticized.   

Then try and produce them here in the states, not an easy tasks and even more difficult when your are taxed 25% on parts. Then only taxed 10% on finished products from China. So all the crap you hear from Washington was just that, total B.S.. So its tough to be in my shoes.

We are working into other areas of the industry to support our dealers better and bringing them new business for them to stay alive. The satellite market cannot support business in just satellite anymore. So we are forced to diversify into adjoining markets like ATSC 3.0 and Next Gen TV. This includes programming and Internet delivery.

With the new chipsets we are getting in that are made in the USA along with our SW team. This has been an expensive venture that may not even pan out. But for the sake of our dealers future,  we are trying our best. Only to be criticized by the very same people who have praised us before and for some people who choose to circumvent and disavow products that disagree with them.

In hearing this, what is even the point of working with them anymore.

Again, I thank the people who have supported our products and understand we will be here with any issues you may have and always continue to support the product.

I continue to reach out to our dealers, just some will not return calls.

My best to you all!

Sincerely,

Jeff Schumann
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